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How did they meet up with Nathan? How did they convince him to join them?
2008.08.11 - WSJ - The Business of Politics
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Ideas can morph. Practically every really big startup could say, five years later, "believe it or not, we started out doing ___." It just seemed a very good sign to me that these guys were actually on the ground in NYC hunting down (and understanding) their users. On top of several previous good signs.
(...)The Airbeds just won the first poll among all the YC startups in their batch by a landslide. In the past this has not been a 100%
indicator of success (if only anything were) but much better than random.
(...)Did they explain the long-term goal of being the market in accommodation the way eBay is in stuff? That seems like it would be huge. Hotels now are like airlines in the 1970s before they figured out how to increase their load factors.
from: Fred Wilson
to: Paul Graham
date: Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 2:05 PM
subject: Re: airbnbThey did but I am not sure I buy that
ABNB reminds me of Etsy in that it facilitates real commerce in a marketplace model directly between two people
So I think it can scale all the way to the bed and breakfast market
But I am not sure they can take on the hotel market
I could be wrong
But even so, if you include short term room rental, second home rental, bed and breakfast, and other similar classes of accommodations, you get to a pretty big opportunity
fred
from: Paul Graham
to: Fred Wilson
date: Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 12:21 AM
subject: Re: airbnbSo invest in them! They're very capital efficient. They would make an investor's money go a long way.
It's also counter-cyclical. They just arrived back from NYC, and when I asked them what was the most significant thing they'd observed, it was how many of their users actually needed to do these rentals to pay their rents.
--pg
from: Fred Wilson
to: Paul Graham
date: Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 2:21 AM
subject: Re: airbnbThere's a lot to like
I've done a few things, like intro it to my friends at Foundry who were investors in Service Metrics and understand this model
I am also talking to my friend Mark Pincus who had an idea like this a few years ago.
So we are working on it
Thanks for the lead
Fred
from: Paul Graham
to: Fred Wilson
date: Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 10:00 PM
subject: airbnb already spreading to prosI know you're skeptical they'll ever get hotels, but there's a continuum between private sofas and hotel rooms, and they just moved
one step further along it.[link to an airbnb user]
This is after only a few months. I bet you they will get hotels eventually. It will start with small ones. Just wait till all the
10-room pensiones in Rome discover this site. And once it spreads to hotels, where is the point (in size of chain) at which it stops?
Once something becomes a big marketplace, you ignore it at your peril.--pg
from: Fred Wilson
to: Paul Graham
date: Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 4:26 AM
subject: Re: airbnb already spreading to prosThat's true. It's also true that there are quite a few marketplaces out there that serve this same market
If you look at many of the people who list at ABNB, they list elsewhere too
I am not negative on this one, I am interested, but we are still in the gathering data phase.
fred
- 2011.05 - Dave Gooden - How Airbnb became a billion-dollar company
- Very, very interesting.
To prove my theory I needed to setup a “mouse trap” on craigslist, so I posted a few vacation rentals using craigslist’s hidden (anonymous) email address option and I made sure to setup the ads to clearly state that I do NOT want emails from commercial interests. A couple of hours later – BOOM! As expected, I received an email inquiry from one of my cl listings…but it wasn’t from AirBnB. The email I received was from a “young lady” telling me about the upside of AirBnB.com (growing site, growing traffic, etc..) and how she really liked my property and wanted me to check out the site. She was nice enough to included a direct link with no tracking code to AirBnB.com’s homepage. I was 99% sure that the email proved my theory and uncovered AirBnB’s black hat supply-side growth strategy…but I needed to be 100% sure.
Again, the email I received was from “girlsname04@gmail.com,” not AirBnB. Maybe she was just a girl that was totally excited about AirBnB and I didn’t uncover anything. There was only one way to find out so I decided to push my “investigation” to the next level. It was time to dig into the closet and pull out my old, faded, dusty black hat. It still fit.
I spent the next weekend building a new website, rounded up some black hat software (craigslist email harvester, mass mailer) and emulated the marketing initiative that I believed AirBnB was using (elementary stuff).
After harvesting email addresses (I only grabbed real email addresses, not anonymous craigslist addresses) I did one email blast to people that were advertising vacation rentals on craigslist. I skipped over the other categories that are directly related to AirBnB’s business model because they didn’t fit with the test site I built. My results: 1,000+ vacation rental owners signed up and listed their properties on my test site.
Now that I had 1,000 new members, I took it upon myself to do them a favor and advertise their vacation rentals on craigslist.
2015.07.12 - Medium - 7 Rejections (Airbnb)
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